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VAL hot weather policy

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1 VAL hot weather policy on Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:46 am

Ribera

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With Castlemaine being resheduled and the likely high temperature in Wangaratta this Saturday of 40 degrees it seems time to look into the VAL's hot weather policy.
Being a summer sport operating in Northern country it is often going to be high 30's or above. The VAL's current hot weather policy puts in jeopardy meets like Maryborough, Castlemaine, Wangaratta and Bendigo. The policy only seems to take into account the actual temp as issued by the weather bureau. The weather bureau also issue data on Apparent Temperature which is the "what it feels like" temperature. This would seem more relevant and more in line with other sports.
Here's the data from the last 40 degree day in Wangaratta. As you can see the "feels like" temp never gets to 38 degrees.

Date/Time         Temperature        Apparent Temperature
                                                 "What it feels like"
21/10:30am           32.6                   29.1
21/11:00am           34.5                   28.7
21/11:30am           35.9                   30.2
21/12:00pm           36.4                   30.4
21/12:30pm           36.9                   30.9
21/01:00pm           38.3                   32.1
21/01:30pm           38.1                   32.4
21/02:00pm           39.2                   33.8
21/02:30pm           40.1                   34.3
21/03:00pm           39.8                   34.8
21/03:30pm           40.8                   36.4
21/04:00pm           40.8                   35.2
21/04:30pm           39.9                   33.5
21/05:00pm           39                      33
21/05:30pm           38.1                   32.1
21/06:00pm           38.2                   32.5
21/06:30pm           36.1                   29.5
21/07:00pm           35.5                   30.4
21/07:30pm           34.6                   30.3
21/08:00pm           33.3                   30
21/08:30pm           32                      29.6
21/09:00pm           29.3                   28.4
21/09:30pm           29.3                   27.7
21/10:00pm           30.6                   27.7

2 Re: VAL hot weather policy on Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:16 pm

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A worthwhile topic for discussion though there is the whole OH&S thing for staff and volunteers that needs to be taken into account.

With some extra planning, there is a way that the VAL and the organising club can make the day relatively comfortable even with a temperatures over 40.

Some things may include:
- Mist stations: a couple of these set up on opposite side of the ground for spectators, staff, and athletes would all enjoy this throughout the day.
- Free water and electrolyte stations
- additional shade tents
- eskies with ice/ice-water
- etc.

On days where this is enforced i.e. likely on Saturday, all entrants can then be charged an additional $1, with athletes also having to pay a small additional fee on the day to counter some of the costs incurred.

Just a few thoughts. I suppose I would just hate to see some of the most coveted meets canceled.

What if it's 41 at Ballarat?. . . affraid

3 Re: VAL hot weather policy on Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:41 pm

Ribera

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Agree 100% on all your suggestions. You could also run a straight 800m final which is no problem on a big track. Run a morning and evening session with a 5 hour break in the heat of the day etc...
I just think the 38 degree cut off temperature in the policy is not hot enough have a meet cancelled or moved. These Northern country communities are used to these temperatures and I think the Apparent Temperature from weather bureau is more relevant when applying the VAL heat policy.



Last edited by Ribera on Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:05 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : spelling)

4 Re: VAL hot weather policy on Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:57 pm

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Ribera wrote:Agree 100% on all your suggestions. You could also run a straight 800m final which is no problem on a big track. Run a morning and evening session with a 5 hour break in the heat of the day etc...
I just think the 38 degree cut off temperature in the policy is not hot enough have a meet cancelled or moved. These Northern country communities are used to these temperatures and I think the Application Temperature from weather bureau is more relevant when applying the VAL heat policy.

Ribera, you genius.
Last year's Ballarat 800m heats had 39 starters, with 28 runners between 30m-100m.
A straight final would make this a cracking free-for-all with plenty of elbows and a fair share of push and shove.

Sure, the guy in red would have to literally run 3 wide the entire way, adding an extra 24m to his run and effectively putting him off scratch, but it be fun to watch.

5 Re: VAL hot weather policy on Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:37 am

Ribera

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Well Einstein, don't run a straight final at Ballarat then. I was talking specifically for Wang as there are only 25 entries this year (48 entries last year for 29 starters).
Dizzy I expect better from you in the analysis department. Wang is a 450m circle track and as there are only 25 entries, after scratchings I would expect a maximum of 18 starters.
It's an extreme situation which requires extreme measures.

ps. I am speaking from experience. I was once the red runner in a 16 person straight 400m final at Albion on a 300m track !!

6 Re: VAL hot weather policy on Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:08 am

Ribera

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Maryborough 800m - 26 entries 19 started 73%
Daylesford 800m - 26 entries 13 started  50%
Rye 800m - 49 entries 23 started 47%
St Albans 800m - 44 entries 28 started 64%
Castlemaine 800m - 40 entries 14 started 35%
 
If the VAL are so concerned about hot weather then Castlemaine would have been the best option for a straight final and probably Daylesford.

7 Re: VAL hot weather policy on Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:38 pm

Fast


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Forget the weather...I'm more concerned about the entries and starters.

8 Re: VAL hot weather policy on Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:17 pm

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Great call Ribera,
Loved the straight final 800m on
the weekend. Didn’t see any elbows out ,and I think
the red enjoyed a run mainly on the paint.
Would love to see this come into play more often.

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